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The same objects must be thinkable, though not knowable, as things in themselves

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We must at least be able to think, even if we cannot cognize, the same objects that are given to us as appearances also as things in themselves.

Gleichwohl wird, welches wohl gemerkt werden muß, doch dabei immer vorbehalten, daß wir eben dieselben Gegenstände auch als Dinge an sich selbst, wenn gleich nicht erkennen, doch wenigstens müssen denken können.

Nevertheless, and this must be well noted, it is always reserved that we must at least be able to think, even if we cannot cognize, these same objects also as things in themselves.

Kritik der reinen Vernunft B xxvi–xxvii (AA 3:16.30–17.07)

B xxvi: "we must at least be able to think, even if we cannot cognize, these same objects also as things in themselves" (AA 3:17.03–05). B 307–308 names the concept under which they are thought: things that the understanding "must think not merely as appearances but as things in themselves", that is, noumena in the negative sense (AA 3:210.03–06), a noumenon in the negative sense being a thing insofar as it is not an object of our sensible intuition (AA 3:209.32–35).

An interpretive choice is open here and the node does not take it: whether "eben dieselben Gegenstände" (B xxvi, AA 3:17.03–04) means one set of objects considered in two ways or two kinds of object. The statement keeps Kant's own wording, "the same objects". What the phrase commits Kant to is contested in the literature; since 2026-10-07 the map holds the two readings as nodes and does not pick one (CHARTER.md P9): the two-aspect reading, on which appearances and things in themselves are the same objects considered in two ways, and the two-object reading, on which things in themselves are distinct entities that ground the appearances. Each lists the passages it rests on and what depends on it.

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